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more on "the mob"

Just as a followup on the earlier piece. Recall that Howard said:

"I don't think the mob, to use that vernacular, has quite made up its mind on this issue and it can't really make up its mind until we know what all the alternatives are."

Now, aside from the breathtaking arrogance of this horrid little man, let's turn to the dictionary, shall we? According to Merriam-Webster, a mob is:

Pronunciation: 'mäb
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin mobile vulgus vacillating crowd
Date: 1688
1 : a large or disorderly crowd; especially : one bent on riotous or destructive action
2 : the lower classes of a community : MASSES, RABBLE
3 chiefly Australian : a flock, drove, or herd of animals
4 : a criminal set : GANG; especially often capitalized : MAFIA 1
5 chiefly British : a group of people : CROWD

Strangely, M-W misses the other meaning: "mob" can also mean "a crowd of voters who aren't likely to re-elect a slimy little toad".


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right, that's it, no more tom clancy for you.

It's pretty clear that a number of the boosters of a war on Iraq get most of their military knowledge from Tom Clancy novels.

It's still suprising (to me, anyway) to see Lex Loser getting his talking point from them, tho:

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer says the United Nations Security Council must confront Iraq soon.

Mr Downer has delivered a speech in Sydney about the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, which he has described as "the sum of all of our fears".

Uh huh. Nice, catchy quote. Where'd you get that one from?

He says the lesson of Iraq is that the international community must be more aggressive in dealing with the proliferation of so-called weapons of mass destruction.

Mr Downer says moves by the United Nations to try to contain Iraq have failed.

Yep. I mean, just look at how Iraq's been proliferating all that bad nasty weapons technology around the world. Oh, no, hang on. That'd be North Korea, Pakistan, and Russia.

Obviously "foreign affairs by non-sequiter" is now the ruling ideaology in the federal leadership...

(Just as an aside, in the linked article, an Iraqi newspaper is described as "the mouthpiece of the ruling Baath Party". I'm all for truth in labelling, and I'm looking forward to seeing Fox News Channel and the Washington Times correctly labelled as "the mouthpiece of the ruling Republican Party". Oh, yeah, I forgot. They're "fair and balanced".)


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ah, I see - now we're a "mob"

See, little Johnny's quite happy to play the ugly populist game when the mob is in favour of his policies (like "bash a reffo"). But when hundreds of thousands of people protest against him, well, then, we're just a mob who can't make up their mind, and doesn't know what's right. Luckily we have a visionary leader who can tell us what's right.

Australians from all walks of life took the streets over the weekend in demonstrations against a possible war with Iraq.
The Prime Minister says he still does not believe they represent the majority view.

Gee, that's funny, 'cos every single opinion poll I've seen suggests that perhaps, maybe, they are the majority.

Kieran Healy notes something similar:

Terry Pratchett, the novelist and acute political sociologist, recently noted (in his book Night Watch) a pattern often displayed by successful revolutionaries. Before the revolution, they are convinced the problem is that the good and pure and true people are living in a corrupt and stupid and worthless society. After the revolution, though, they begin to think that their good and pure and true society is populated by corrupt and stupid and worthless people. This is because people often don't fall into line with the grand plans of their political leaders, which bugs the shite out of the leaders. Leaders, in general, prefer to treat The People as an abstraction rather than as a concrete entity.

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*sigh*

The Age decides that since A Current Affair isn't pushing quack diets any more, obviously it's time that they moved into this niche.

At least they also published a piece pointing out that many medical professions consider the Atkins ("no-carb") diet to be foolish quackery. They also point out that Atkins himself fell over with a heart attack (or, as his publicity machine called it, "a virus") last year. This amuses me a great deal. Is that wrong?


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there's putdowns, and there's putdowns.

The righty columnists in american politics get their "wit" from ripping off old Simpsons' lines (French as "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"), then endlessly repeating them in their self-congratulatory echo chamber. This response, from Justin Vaisse, shows how to be informative and witty at the same time. Perhaps the righty types in the US should try to manage one of the two, first. Both might be a bit much.

Another thing I had failed to appreciate was how isolated we French are. It's painful to admit, but only 73 percent of the French people oppose a war without a second U.N. resolution. We definitely cannot pretend we speak for the rest of the world, as war is opposed by 82 percent of the European Union (84 percent of Brits), and in other parts of the world, let's say South America, it's more in the range of 90 percent. So we should shut up. And we should also admit that our isolation makes us insignificant, though I still can't understand why publications such as the Weekly Standard keep talking about us so much. Maybe it has something to do with our food.

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"anti-american"

Ray Cassin:

If there is doubt about the future of the alliance [with the US], it is not because an opposition politician has forthrightly criticised the US president; it is because some people evidently think that forthright criticism of the president by an opposition politician is incompatible with the existence of the alliance. If they get away with setting boundaries for democratic debate in this way, then the notion of an alliance will wither anyway. A nation whose politicians cannot speak their minds without being reprimanded by an allied ambassador is a nation that has ceased to be an ally, and become a client.

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blair/paxman, continued...

The Independent takes on Blair's appearance on Paxman, and savages many of his points. They also whack Blair fairly solidly for his "unconvincing and slippery arguments". Remember, kids, Blair's doing better than just about anyone with respect to pushing this war, and even he can't manage it.

[Blair:] If we do have to come to military action in Iraq and remove Saddam, then I honestly believe the people who will rejoice first will be the Iraqis.

[The Independent:] But neither the US nor the UK is going to war to liberate the Iraqi people. Tony Blair implied that Saddam can carry on persecuting his own people, so long as he gives up his weapons of mass destruction.


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fascinating web site of the day.

Via The Sideshow, they rule. This website (flash) allows you to examine the wonderful world of the interlocking boards of directors of the largest US corporations.

I'm not sure how up-to-date it is (it still lists Compaq, for instance), but it's quite an interesting little toy, nonetheless.

(it also appears to be publically traded companies - so no Carlyle Group )


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barking bin laden, in his own words

Rather than believing the US, ahem, spin (or "lies") on barking boy bin laden, the BBC has him in his own words. It's safe to say, of course, that the US is deliberately obfuscating what he said (no!! surely not?)

Even so, even the WashPost (which has been doing sterling duty in the services of the US government lately) reports:

[FBI Director] Mueller said that in the case of a war with Iraq, Baghdad will likely "use biological, chemical or radiological weapons against U.S. domestic targets," and may establish stronger ties with al Qaeda.

Note the tense of the words. Not "has established" (as they claim), but "may establish" "in case of war".

"This nexus between terrorists and states that are developing weapons of mass destruction can no longer be looked away from and ignored," Powell told the Senate Budget Committee.

Uh huh. Whatever. I think it's safe to say that much more of this sort of crap will lead to Powell getting Bush-like levels of public trust.

(Meanwhile, Tom Friedman continues his happy little fantasy, where the US is only interested in "helping" Iraq, and will of course build a nice little democracy with a Starbucks on every corner and happy well-fed democratic civilians. At what point, I wonder, will the reality sink in for him?)


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digital tv: the rush to stay informed.

Well, fancy that. Apparently Howard felt like he was uninformed about digital TV, too. Gee, it's lucky that Telstra was there to help him out. Can't have pollies "uninformed".

But hold on - those plasma screen TVs are big bastards that sit on the floor. So why did Howard need to spend over $4,000 on a TV stand? Don't tell me Telstra stiffed him and didn't even provide a stand to put the thing on? Geez, what's happening to bribery in this country today.

When your only friend is John "never saw a cheque he didn't like" Laws, give it away, Dick.

I hear Alston and Howard are also feeling a tad uninformed on the quality of the higher-end wines that we export - anyone from Penfolds feeling up to the task?


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hiding behind the door when brains were being handed out

The current US ambassador to Australia, Tom Schieffer, really is a dick. Given the current state of politics in Australia, particularly with respect to Australia's relationship to the US, a smart man would just Shut. The. Fuck. Up. If he felt it necessary to comment, it would be done quietly through backchannels. Not through an interview with The Bulletin!

Crean has rightly told Schieffer to pull his fucking head in last week, so this week Schieffer decides it's a smart move to bitch about things in an interview?

It is disturbing though that for so many years, the alliance has been considered an above-the-radar issue in both parties, but now it seems to be open to partisan debate. That's troubling because it's something that hasn't happened in a long time.

Well, yes, but at the same time we've not ever had a US president pushing "preventative war", or telling the rest of the world that they had better follow the US or be ignored.

This quote from McKew's article is also quite enlightening:

Administration and embassy officials have been told over a long period of time about the precise nature of the Labor fault-line. ALP support for any war in Iraq is conditional on a United Nations mandate and until this happens it won't support the deployment of Australian troops. But instead of this being seen as a reasonable point of distinction, Rudd, in recent meetings in Washington that the state department has described as "full and frank", found himself facing the charge that "you've gone soft on Iraq".

Ah. Silly me. I forgot that as a "democratic ally" of the US, we're not allowed to have different opinions to them. How foolish of me. I do hope the idiots who think the US is interested in "democracy in Iraq" are paying attention here. Go think about just how much democracy the US is going to let the Iraqis have, when they can't even handle Australia having a democracy that might not always agree with them.

Gerard Henderson, in a piece in The Age on the weekend, passes on reports that US embassy staff were interviewing campaign managers from the left-of-center parties last year. He rightly points out that this is pointless (it's doubtful they'd have learned anything) and stupid (perceived US interference in Australian electoral policies would cause a massive public explosion).

To use a phrase from a stand-up comic I saw last night: It would be a good idea if Schieffer would fuck off, and stay there.


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remember afghanistan?

Wasn't there some sort of thing going on in Afghanistan? Something with military, a new government, that sort of thing? Oh, it's completed and we can ignore it? Maybe not. Back to proxy wars, resurgent fundamentalist resistance fighters,and random violence in Kabul.

Meanwhile, Iran moves to go nuclear, Palestinian refugees are in danger of starving, but we must get Saddam. He's evil, don'tcha know. Eeeeevil.


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alston in shock "informed" blunder.

Via Richard, Alston's latest effort - a "loaner" $10K plasma screen TV so that he can become better acquainted with digital TV. Aside from the obvious ethical issue here, it's risible that Alston claims that this is so he can "make decisions from an informed knowledge".

This man has gone out of his way to remain uninformed in almost every aspect of his portfolio - if he was Minister for Oxygen he'd be holding his breath out of spite. I notice in the article that he "uses it to watch sport" - that'd figure.


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war on drugs, er, on terror, um, on oil?

Via Slacktivist, this WP article with the completely co-incidental deployment of members of the US Special Forces to an area that has an oil-pipeline that needs defending. Worryingly, they're also on the border of Venezuala. The US, of course, has no interest in Venezuala at all.

Without wanting to be the boy who cried "Vietnam", it really does seem like the US involvement in Columbia is going down a similar path. What ever happened to the Powell doctrine of "don't go in without an exit strategy"?


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more blair/paxman

There's a second part to the interview/open chat with Blair, Paxman and an audience. In some respects it's even more interesting than the first. The topic is "public services".

Most people in the audience seem to hold quite strong positions about things like locking up refugees, mandatory sentencing, and the like, and it's quite pleasant to see a national leader actually standing against the easy approach of giving in to the mob mentality. But perhaps it's just pleasant because of the nice change from our own reactionary PM.


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another classic Paxman interview

Jeremy Paxman, possibly the most brutally thorough interviewer in the world, gave Blair a absolute pounding in this special. Read it, and imagine how long an interview with an American leader would last before the leader either walked out or had Paxman detained as an "enemy combatant"

To be fair to Blair, I also couldn't see Bush (or Howard) ever exposing themselves to what was obviously going to be an absolute shellacking from both the interviewer and the audience. So he gets points for that...

Some sample quotes:

JEREMY PAXMAN: And you believe American intelligence?
TONY BLAIR: Well I do actually believe this intelligence -
JEREMY PAXMAN: Because there are a lot of dead people in an aspirin factory in Sudan who don't.

...

JEREMY PAXMAN: But Prime Minister, this is, you say, all about a man defying the wishes of the United Nations. You cannot have it both ways.
If one of the permanent five members of the Security Council uses its veto and you, with your friend George Bush, decide somehow that this is unreasonable, you can't then consider yourself absolutely free to defy the express will of the Security Council. What's it for otherwise?

...

JEREMY PAXMAN: I mean, when a great world figure like Nelson Mandela calls the British Prime Minister the American Foreign Minister - don't you feel embarrassed?
JEREMY PAXMAN: So when people say you're a poodle...

Nasty comment for the session was the audience member who referred to Blair as the "Rt. Hon Member for Texas North"

(Via Atrios)


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"extraordinary renditions."

That's right. The Muslim loonies hate the west for our freedoms. Like the freedom to hand off prisoners to someone else to torture.

Says an official who has supervised the capture and transfer of accused terrorists, 'If you don't violate someone's human rights some of the time, you probably aren't doing your job.' " Another official is quoted: "We don't kick the [expletive] out of them. We send them to other countries so they can kick the [expletive] out of them." The term for these transfers is "extraordinary renditions." There is, of course, no legal process; and among the foreign intelligence services who lend a brutal hand are those of Jordan, Egypt, and Morocco. At least once, torturers in Syria have been enlisted.

...

... the CIA, in practice, is using a narrow definition of what counts as 'knowing' that a suspect has been tortured. 'If we're not there in the room, who is to say?' said one official conversant with recent reports of renditions.

This strikes me as one of those things that "seemed like a good idea at the time", but which will come back to haunt the people responsible. If you're going to use Saddam's utterly woeful human rights record as a justification for invasion, how on earth can you allow this sort of "will nobody rid me of these troubling terrorists" behaviour? If western military are captured in Iraq, and, gods forbid, tortured, it makes it that much harder to turn around and say "don't do that!" if you've been participating in this yourself.


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what the hell is up with americans?

The recent case in the US where a medical professor refuses to write letters of recommendations to students who go for creationism over evolution, and is being sued for "religious discrimination", has inspired a bunch of bloggers. Incredibly, many are actually disagreeing with the professor. Look, just because someone has deeply held beliefs, and is completely sincere about them, doesn't alter the fact that creationism is bunk. You can wrap it up in funny disguises, call it "Intelligent Design" or whatever other fancy new name it's got this week, but it's still bunk. Evolution isn't just a "theory", to be equated with "creation theory", it's a solid scientific basis for many of the life sciences we depend on today.

There's over a century of solid work by some very, very smart people on evolution, and over time it's changed as new pieces of evidence have come to light. The basic theory, though, has held firm. In the meantime, what've the creationists produced? Lots of hypotheticals, appeals to this or that ancient scripture, and much deliberate obfuscation and blurring of facts.

As Dini puts it on his website:

Good medicine, like good biology, is based on the collection and evaluation of physical evidence. So much physical evidence supports the evolution of humans from non-human ancestors that one can validly refer to the "fact" of human evolution, even if all of the details are not yet known. One can deny this evidence only at the risk of calling into question ones understanding of science and of the method of science. Such an individual has committed malpractice regarding the method of science, for good scientists would never throw out data that do not conform to their expectations or beliefs. This is the situation of those who deny the evolution of humans; such a one is throwing out information because it seems to contradict his/her cherished beliefs. Can a physician ignore data that s/he does not like and remain a physician for long? No. If modern medicine is based on the method of science, then how can someone who denies the theory of evolution -- the very pinnacle of modern biological science -- ask to be recommended into a scientific profession by a professional scientist?

It's a source of great confusion that Americans can still be arguing over creationism versus evolution in this day and age. It's somewhat like hearing a couple of doctors arguing over the merits of leeches versus antibiotics. Actually, that's probably unfair - I seem to recall there is some cases where the anti-coagulent that leeches put into the blood stream has medical use. I can't think of any possible cases where a solid knowledge of creation is going to be helpful. If I'm ever so sick that divine intervention is useful, I'll go to a goddam priest directly. I don't take my cat to the mechanic when it's sick, why would I go to the doctor's for religious help?

CSICOP has a good piece on what's involved in this, while D-squared Digest delivers the most cutting suggestion I've seen for a letter of recommendation. (As well as the line "sitting around teaching morons in a town where the definition of an intellectual is someone who can keep his mouth shut when he points at aeroplanes.")


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don't take that bet!

President George Bush has bet his reputation for economic competence on a massive increase in military spending and a return to a level of government debt not seen since his father led America in the early 1990s.

(again, from today's Age. Today, it's a gift that keeps on giving.)

He's bet his what??? Which reputation for economic competence would that be? The one that took an end-of-bubble slump and turned it, apparently, into some sort of hideous deflationary collapse? The one that slashed taxes all over Texas, resulting in that state now facing disastrous budget deficits, with the butchering of services that follow.

As Paul Krugman might say, if he was a cranky Australian blogger rather than an NYT columnist and noted economist, "Pigs Arse".


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jeez. he really doesn't want Lachlan to take over.

I mean, ok, sure, Lachlan blew a couple of hundred mil on One.Tel, but isn't this going a bit far to try and stop him driving News Corp into the ground after Rupert passes on?

Rupert Murdoch and his wife, Wendi Deng, are expecting another baby and new heir to the Murdoch family's global media empire.
The baby will be the sixth child for the 71-year-old founder of News Corporation, his second with Ms Deng, 35.


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I think I just ruptured something laughing

So I'm about to go to bed, check the ABC news for the latest, half out of habit. What do I see, but that Lex Loser has, well, fucked up. And it could be quite a major fuckup, even by Lex "Things That Batter" Downer's standards. (short explanation: Lex was previously leader of the liberals back in the early 90s. A notable highlight followed one policy launch called "Things That Matter". He thought it would be a laugh to refer to a policy on domestic violence as "Things That Batter". He's also referred to South American nations as "BACs" - "Busted Arse Countries".) (aside the second: what the hell is it with our Foreign Ministers. The previous one, Gareth "Puppy Joke" Evans, was also one for the idiotic comment, although in Evans case, at least, it appears that it required booze to get him going seriously.)

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has denied telling a foreign diplomat that Australia will not withdraw its troops from the Middle East, even if the United Nations refuses to endorse military action against Iraq.

The Federal Government has been embarrassed by a leaked document suggesting Australian forces cannot be withdrawn, despite assurances from Prime Minister John Howard.

Mr Downer says his conversation with the New Zealand High Commissioner has been taken out of context.

Presumably "out of context" means "out from a quiet little chat, and where the public can see it".


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what's wrong with this picture?

The following image was found on Parents. The Anti-Drug. website, which appears to be another of those "Parents! Here's how you can be down wit' da kids speak and 'splain to dem bout how dangerous drugs are. Yo!" websites.

Now, I might just have a mind that's twisted in a particular direction, but to me, this looks like an advertisement. I tried to find a similar one for Prozac, but to no avail (although it did lead me to http://www.anti-depressants-paxil-prozac-zoloft-celexa-medications.com/, which has to be the worst URL ever).

Or am I just seeing things. I really wanted to take the "Test your Anti-Drug IQ" test, but it appears to require Flash 6, which would require Windows. [Update: tried it on the Windows box. Apparently my "Anti-Drug IQ" is only 50%. Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.] My favourite "Parent to Parent" story title from that page, by the way, would have to be "See Your Child As A Person". Damn. There goes my plan to "See My Child As A Small Walking Container Full Of Fresh (And Convenient For Transplanting) Organs".

Where do they find the well-meaning but utterly clueless types that spend hours and hours of their life on this stuff? Jesus. Look, if you're worried about your kids messing with drugs, try this radical idea: Maintain a open and honest relationship with your kids. Treat them with respect, and don't feed them bullshit. If your response to "Mum, I tried some pot" is "oh my god you're going to become a drug-addicted junkie!!" while you slam down your prozac with your third gin and tonic of the evening, well, don't expect your kids to come back with further questions.

Or just dope the little fuckers to the eyeballs with Ritalin and plug them into the TV. Seems to be the popular choice. On the other hand, if this parenting style does appeal to you, consider getting a fucking fish tank. Just like children, only you don't get arrested if you neglect them to death.


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sad. just... sad.

Hitchens' hatred of Clinton continues, and continues to turn someone who was an interesting writer into a tired hack, peddling his Clinton conspiracy theories to eager right wingers. "See?" they say, "Lefties think he was bad, too!" Hitchens' latest? Apparently he thinks that Clinton was a CIA spy in the anti-Vietnam community. Hold on, though. Wasn't one of Clinton's big bad things that made him unsuitable to be President his "draft dodging" (unlike the current inmate, who served honourably in a national guard post his daddy's friends arranged, for a bit, until he decided he couldn't be bothered turning up) and Clinton's participation in the anti-Vietnam community? If he was a CIA spy, surely that makes him a cunning hero to the wingnuts? Oops, that would require suppressing the knee-jerk anti-Clinton hard-wired responses.

I'm sorry, but the supposed crimes and misdemeanors of Clinton utterly utterly pale beside what's been done since then by the new mob. That Hitchens can sit there and continue to bang on about Clinton, while the current nutjobs turn the world into a scary place run for corporations, by corporations, with a cowed and silent populace unable to have a say in their lives, speaks volumes about how far he's fallen.

(For what it's worth, I think that Clinton wasn't a particularly good president. But given the choices that are likely in the US, he's about as good as the US voters are going to get. And compared to the current guy, well, as Eric Alterman puts it, "Thanks again, Ralph".)


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more gonzo

via Maru at WTF Is It Now, a Salon interview with HST. (Aside: how great is the new 'see a crappy ad, get 24 hours of Salon Premium' policy? There's no way in hell I'd ever subscribe to something that gives money to Sullivan or to that disgusting arsehole Horowitz, but this I can deal with).

I've only just got my copy of Kingdom of Fear, so can't comment on the book. But certainly the interview is consistent with the first quarter of the book:

What do they get out of it?

They get control of the U.S. economy, their friends get rich. These are not philosopher-kings we're talking about. These are politicians. It's a very sleazy way of using the system. One of the problems today is that what's going on today is not as complex as it seems. The Pentagon just asked for another $14 billion more in the budget, and it's already $28 billion. [Defense spending in the 2003 budget rose $19.4 billion, to $364.6 billion]. That's one sector of the economy that's not down the tubes. So, some people are getting rich off of this. It's the oligarchy. I believe the Republicans have never thought that democracy was anything but a tribal myth. The GOP is the party of capital. It's pretty basic. And it may have something to do with the deterioration of educational system in this country. I don't think Bush has the slightest intention or concern about educating the public.


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